Johann MONZ ⚭ Maria NIGG

Johann MONZ

    (from Pfunds)

  • Born: 1676 in Pfunds
  • Died: unknown

Parents of Johann:

  • Father: Peter MONZ born 1646
  • Mother: M. GABL

Marriage:

  • 1702 to Maria NIGG

Maria NIGG

    (married name MONZ)

  • Born: unknown
  • Died: unknown

Parents of Maria:

  • Father: Johann NIGG
  • Mother: Margret FALKEIS

Marriage:

  • 1702 to Johann MONZ

Children together:

  • Maria MONZ, married 1753 to Thomas PFEIFER
  • Johann MONZ, married Therese MAAß born in Ried
    • Daughter of Johann MONZ and Therese MAAß:
      Maria MONZ born 15 April 1715, married Christian PATSCHEIDER born 9 February 1729 (see descendants of Clauß Patscheidt: 8042)

(Author’s note: my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents)

Sources (italic text indicates original content):

  • Dr. Richard Patscheider: “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” page Z8:
    VIII.Christian von Pedroß (St. Martin)
    gb. 1729 II. 9. h. 1761 V. 9. mit Maria Monz aus Pfunds, Tochter des Johann Monz und der Therese Maaß (Ried), Voreltern: Johann Monz und M. Nigg / Karl Maaß u. M.Wille
  • Dr. Richard Patscheider: “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” page Z17 (3rd paragraph):
    Monz Johann Pfunds h. a. 1636 2. 3. Kath. Lienhart aus Ried, eine Tochter Marie m. gb. 1641,
    davon: Peter Monz, gb. 1646 h. M. Gabl
    eine Tochter Marie, gb. 1715 IV. 15. von Johann Monz sen. - Pfunds gb. 1676, mit Maria Nigg (von Johann Nigg und der M. Margret Falkeis).
  • Dr. Richard Patscheider: “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” page Z17 (4th paragraph):
    Joh. Monz jun. und Ther. Maaß sind die Eltern von M. Monz, die sich 1761 mit Christian Patscheider vermählte.
    1. Kind 1762 Maria. Bei der Taufe des Christiani Patscheider zu Graun 1719 I. 10. war Taufpatin Christina Patscheiderin. Bei der Trauung von Christian mit M. Monz 1761 waren Beistände: Josef Blaas und Josef Padeller (tom. III Pf. Graun).
  • Dr. Richard Patscheider: “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” page Z24 (at Wo/pa 37 and 51 - line 13):
    1754 IX. 14. Josef Schuchter h. A. M. Pfeifer von Pf. Thomas
    1753 und M. Monz, Tochter des Joh. M. und d. Maria Nigg, h. 1702

Comment:

The existence of these two persons (Johann Monz and Maria Nigg) is documented through their mention in “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” on pages Z8, Z17 and Z24.

On page Z8 the complicated connection between my 6th great-grandparents (Johann Monz and Maria Nigg) and Christian Patscheider (8042) *9 February 1729 from the descendants of Clauß Patscheidt is explained. I called this the “Monz-Nigg story” for myself. Richard put a lot of effort into explaining this connection, but it only really becomes recognizable in the family tree structure, see the screenshot from Kith&Kin alongside.

On page Z17 the Monz line is listed, partly very confusing. Johann Monz, born 1676 (this one here), must have been a son of Peter Monz, born 1646 and M. Gabl, otherwise this line does not work, at least not with these birth dates! This is completely mixed together with the line to Christian Patscheider, which is also presented here exactly as on page Z8.

Page Z8

 

Excerpt from page Z8 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider

Page Z8 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider - point VIII explains the complicated connection between my 6th great-grandparents and Christian Patscheider from the descendants of Clauß Patscheidt (8042).

 

Page Z17

 

Excerpt from page Z17 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider

Excerpt from page Z17 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider - the Monz line is shown here and the connection to Christian Patscheider is confirmed (3rd and 4th paragraph).

 

Page Z24

 

Excerpt from page Z24 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider

Excerpt from page Z24 from “Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum” by Dr. Richard Patscheider - information about Johann Monz and Maria Nigg (line 14).

 

Screenshot
from Kith&Kin

 

Excerpt from page Z24 from „Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum“ by Dr. Richard Patscheider

This “Monz-Nigg story” only becomes visible and understandable through the screenshot.